29/06/10

Taliban and Afghanistan

In response of article with above title below this post.
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Raja wrote:
U.S and NATO troops are embattling these insurgent Taliban ever since the former invaded Afghanistan in October 2001, following the incident of 9/11.

TURKMAN: Not true. Taliban had not resurfaced in Afghanistan until Pakistan had re-armed and redeployed them back a year later.
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Raja wrote:
To their hard-luck, these foreign forces could not subdue the resistance put up by Afghan Taliban and masses in spite of having superior weaponry and despotic tactics.

TURKMAN: Despotic Tactics? Not USA, Pakistan Army's and Taliban's. Resistance by Masses? Which masses? Not Afghans. They hate Taliban otherwise, Taliban would have won Elections. Taliban could not even field a single candidate in Elections and Masses are with Pakistani Agents, the Taliban?
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Raja wrote:
Rather their tyrannical acts further fuelled the insurgency in that country.

TURKMAN:
More Pak Agent Taliban infiltrated by Pak Army, more the Insurgency. What's so strange about it? NATO US Troops, building Schools, Hospitals, giving free books to kids, School Supplies and Candy are Tyrannical and Taliban Sneak Attack Terrorists are not? Don't Afghans know, what kind of Tyrants Taliban were in their 5 year rule of Afghanistan?
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Raja wrote:
After having analysed, the consecutive failure of US and NATO troops, and their counter-productive results, Afghan President Mr. Hamid Karazai, decided to launch reconciliatory efforts to integrate the Taliban into the main stream of Afghan society and the Government.

TURKMAN: Karzai would do anything to remain in power after US withdraws in July, 2011 and he knows, unless he breaks away local people, who are co-operating with Pak Taliban from them, he can not rule. He wants to negotiate with Pak Army actually so, it stops sending Taliban in Afghanistan to destabilize or conquer Afghanistan again.
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Raja wrote:
Since Pakistan, as a brotherly Islamic and neighbourly country is helping the Afghan Government in the process, therefore, is linked with the Taliban.

TURKMAN:
Oh sure, Afghanistan' s birth Enemy that is ruling more than half of population of Afghans on other side of Durand Line, the country that had brutalized Afghans for decades through her interference in Afghan Politics through her JehaaDis and Taliban is now going to help Afghanistan. Who is fooling who here?
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Raja wrote:
Pakistan indeed, believes that peace in this war-torn country; Afghanistan is a key to its own internal stability, therefore, decided to encourage and helped the Afghan Government to negotiate with the Taliban; the main
insurgent group.

TURKMAN: 'War-torn Country'? Yes because of war imposed by Pakistan since 1979. 'Key to internal Stability'? Sure, Pakistan was very Internally Stable, when its Army and Taliban had conquered Afghanistan in 1996. Definitely Pakistan had become Internally un-table during Afghanistan' s in-fighting from 1973 to 1977,
right? Gen. Zia was overthrown and Taliban were killing thousands of Pakistanis every year, right? ... How the hell you dare to call Taliban an Insurgent Group, when they are not even Afghans? Should not they be called Paki Invaders or 'Kharjian', as Afghans call them?
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Raja wrote:
Gen. Keyani says,“Pakistan cannot wish anything for Afghanistan which it cannot wish for itself�.

TURKMAN:
But who is Pakistan? Pakistan is Pakistan Army ruling Pakistan directly or indirectly through the curtain. Sure, almost all Punjabi Pakistan Army would like to occupy Afghanistan just like it has occupied Pakistan. Proof is, slaughter of East Pakistanis, Balochis, Sindhis, Mohajirs by Pakistan Army. Is not Pak Army killing Balochis even now?
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Raja wrote:
The malicious nature of the report could be well imagined from the fact that Afghan Taliban are forced to obey the Pakistani intelligence agencies because their families are in Pakistan.
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TURKMAN: Yeah but the problem is, as soon as Pakistani PushToon hired, trained and armed by Pak Army enter Afghanistan to terrorize US and Afghans, you call them 'Afghan Taliban'. This does not change the fact that their Families are living in Pakistan by your lie that they are not Pakistanis. You can try to fool the world but can not fool your own Pakistanis.
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Raja wrote:
Whereas, a large number of Afghan leadership had their residences in Pakistan. Even President Karazai had stayed in Pakistan for a long duration and still owns a house in Pakistan.
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TURKMAN: When in practice, Pakistanis Laws prohibit any Foreigners from purchasing any Property. When I was in Pakistan, I had found out that without ISI's permission, I could not get Phone installed in my rented house because I was a Foreigner (a US Citizen) despite being Pakistani also. ... We are not talking about a few rich Afghans here. Poor illiterate Pakistani PushToons were recruited as Taliban. Pakistan's ISI had not gone in to Afghanistan to recruit Afghans as Taliban in 1994. How come all those so called 'Afghan Taliban' understand and speak Urdu if they are really Afghans? How much more are you going to lie, Moslim? I thought lying was a Basic Sin in Islam.
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Raja wrote:

The argument is further augmented by the fact that, if a researcher, who indeed was an official representative of UK Government, could find that real leadership of Taliban why cannot over 150,000 large US and NATO
forces; whose UK troops are also part of, could trace them.
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TURKMAN: The argument is further augmented by the fact that, if a researcher, who indeed was an official representative of Pak Army Government, could find that real leadership of Taliban, why cannot 700,000 strong Pak Armed forces; whose troops are also part of Taliban, could trace them for the last 9 years after verbally siding with USA against Taliban? How can just total of 10,000 Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan blatantly attack Foreign Troops in Afghanistan, NATO Warehouses and NATO Supply Convoys and Pakistanis in Pakistan if Pak Army has not been financing, training and arming them?
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Raja wrote:
Why did they (Foreign Secret Agencies) fail to trace them (Taliban) and taken them to the task, instead of killing the innocent Afghans, once they are busy in undertaking their religious and social ceremonies?
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TURKMAN:
Because whenever they do, you declare them Innocent Pak or Afghan Civilians. Why Taliban pretend to be always having a Religious Ceremony, they are attacked? Why they carry Arms and Ammunition instead of a Dead Person on the Cot on their Shoulders carrying it towards Afghan Border in a Pretend Religious Ceremony of a Fake Funeral? Why they celebrate fake Religious Ceremony of a Wedding to carry out their Sneak Attacks? If your beloved Taliban and Al Qaeda Terrorists are not dieing in US Drone Attacks, why your crying so much against them? Why are you bleeding Tears of Blood for killings of so called Innocent Afghans in Afghanistan, when its not your country? Why is Pak Army now so sympathetic to Afghans, when it was not during slaughtering a million of them helping Taliban during its occupation of Afghanistan pretending to be Taliban speaking in Punjabi and Urdu? Should Afghans forget all that also?
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Raja wrote:
Furthermore, Pakistan neither desires to use Afghan soil as its strategic depth nor has intention to use the Taliban (Afghan or Pakistani Taliban) as its strategic strength.
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TURKMAN:
Not Pakistan but Pak Army's Generals and ISI do so, they can make money by smuggling everything in to Pakistan Custom Duty plus Tax free and selling it at a huge Profit under Afghan Transit Trade Agreement like
before during Taliban rule of Afghanistan plus they want to keep making money by their Heroin Export to Europe. Total yearly Profit in billions of dollars.
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Raja wrote:
The report indeed is an effort to defame Pakistani leadership and its premier intelligence agency; ISI, which has maintained a clean conduct throughout its material life. This spotless intelligence network indeed, neither has established inhuman camps like Guantanamo bay nor colonised its neighbours or undertook massacre during WW-I and WW-II.
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TURKMAN:
How true. Except for slaughter of tens of thousands of Pakistanis in Government Custody. How can ISI have a Gitmo, when it does not believe in leaving anybody alive that it arrests? 'Khas kum JehaaN Paak'. 'Naa
ho go jo BaaNs; Toe kaisay bajay BaaNsri?'. Very clean conduct indeed.
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*Dr Raja Muhammad Khan is Ph. D in International Relations from Karachi University. Now he is an Associate Professor with National University of Defence, run by Pakistan Army. Dr Khan’s focus is on South Asia, Central Asia and the Middle East, on advice of ISI that he works for. He is regular contributor to* *www.opinion- maker.org* , the Website of Pakistan Army ran by its Agency, ISI.

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